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It's a thought-provoking essay and one I'm gonna have to think about for a while, but it also reminds of one thing about that Peggy Noonan piece that really bugged me that no-one else seems to have mentioned: her totally clueless sense of entitlement.

I've canvased on college campuses for a variety of progressive causes and candidates, and one thing I'm certain of: if a 73 year old well-dressed White woman approaches a bunch of college women and starts by saying "Friends, talk to me," their initial instinct is always going to be to turn away. Why on earth does Peggy Noonan think they WANT to talk to her? Someone in her position will more often than not be opposed on every fucking level to what these college kids want.

Turns out that college kids don't want to talk to some old rando who accosts them in order to interrogate them. They've already encountered too many retired folks who've taken on as their personal mission preaching to the college kids about everything (verbatim quote from one such: "Hi. Why do you girls want to murder babies?"). Why does Peggy Noonan think they should trust her? At least the Jehovah's Witnesses just stand there and chat only if they're approached. Maybe if Peggy had worn a big sign around her neck reading 'Trusted Wall Street Journal Reporter' it would have made a difference. Probably not.

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Hi Adrian, big fan of the Substack and the podcast. If you've not already read it, I think you'd find this concept of bad faith credentialism really resonates with Olúfémi Táíwò's analysis of epistemic deference here ( https://www.thephilosopher1923.org/post/being-in-the-room-privilege-elite-capture-and-epistemic-deference ) and in his book Elite Capture. He's also interested in a failure of informal political representation, but not one that always comes from bad faith. Rather, he's interested in how the very experiences and backgrounds that might lead a member of a marginalised group to find themselves as an informal representative in an elite space, could also indicate that they are likely to have had relatively atypical experiences for a member of that group (and so be less representative of the group as a whole). While "epistemic deference" to such representatives ("let's hear from one of the women in the room...") may come from a genuinely laudable place, he argues that it often fails to recognise the filters that prevented so many other marginalised people from getting into the rooms where such conversations happen in the first place. Obviously this can be abused in bad faith ways (eg to manufacture legitimacy for rightwing economic policies that will disadvantage most members of marginalised social groups, but not the most privileged among them), but even if good faith is assumed it seems like a fairly organic outgrowth of the desire among the socially conscious but relatively privileged to find informal representatives of marginalised communities in deeply stratified societies.

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